Discussion:
FOSDEM 2019: no Open Document Editors devroom?
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Andrea Pescetti
2018-10-11 07:04:15 UTC
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While I haven't received any feedback from FOSDEM organizers yet (the
two contact addresses I had given were mine and Peter's), I am not
seeing the Open Document Editors devroom listed at
https://fosdem.org/2019/schedule/

This is just to confirm that I did send a request, a couple days before
the deadline, exactly the same way it has worked in the past years.
Usually a similar request was sent by another project and the requests
were merged by organizers to create a shared "Open Document Editors"
devroom.

If organizers have decided not to host an "Open Document Editors"
devroom this year, we should just respect them; they need to rotate
projects, so after a few years in a row it is understandable if they
decided to pick other types of software. I'm not into political games
and I'm uninterested in discussing why (so far at least) FOSDEM decided
that OpenOffice and similar software should not get a devroom this year.

If I get some official acceptance/rejection notice I will of course
inform the list.

Here's the receipt of the application I sent last month, very similar to
those from previous years that you can find in the list archives.
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Acknowledging your devroom request (Apache OpenOffice [or: joint "ODF
Editors" devroom])
Wed, 19 Sep 2018 21:51:51 +0000

Devroom Request for FOSDEM 2019

We acknowledge that we have received your request for the following devroom.
After we review all devroom requests, we will inform you accordingly via
email.

Title: Apache OpenOffice [or: joint "ODF Editors" devroom]
Coordinator: Andrea Pescetti
Coordinator email: ***@...
Secondary contact: Peter Kovacs
Secondary email: ***@...

Description:
Apache OpenOffice, formerly known as OpenOffice.org, is one of the most
popular Free and Open Source software projects. A Top Level Project at
the Apache Software Foundation since October 2012, OpenOffice has more
than 250 million downloads as an official Apache project. The next
version, OpenOffice 4.1.6, is scheduled for release in October 2018.

Note: A joint "ODF editors" devroom like the one organized at FOSDEM
since 2014 would allow a productive exchange of ideas with other Free
and Open Source editors using OpenDocument as their native format.

As for OpenOffice, topics that may be interesting for FOSDEM 2019
include: modernization of the reference baseline; improvements to the
localization process; tools to assist release management; build
technologies.

Coordinator's affinity to the topic of the devroom:
Andrea, who is sending the application on behalf of the OpenOffice PMC,
served as Chair of the OpenOffice Project Management Committee
(2012-2014) and was the Release Manager of OpenOffice 4.1.2 in 2015.

Why does it fit FOSDEM
An Apache OpenOffice devroom would allow existing volunteers to meet and
discuss future developments, and users and potential new volunteers to
learn how they can help the project, thanks to presentations and hacking
sessions spanning a broad range of topics.

Relevant URLs:
The main project URL is http://www.openoffice.org/


Timeslot:
Full day

Special requirements:
Preferred day: Saturday



Kind Regards,
FOSDEM 2019 devrooms team

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Andrea Pescetti
2018-10-13 17:12:39 UTC
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Post by Andrea Pescetti
While I haven't received any feedback from FOSDEM organizers yet (the
two contact addresses I had given were mine and Peter's), I am not
seeing the Open Document Editors devroom listed at
https://fosdem.org/2019/schedule/
The organizers confirmed that the devroom won't run in 2019, so neither
OpenOffice nor similar programs will get a devroom (i.e., a day-long
conference track, for those unfamiliar with FOSDEM jargon).

It is normal that FOSDEM rotates subjects of their devrooms and we
should be grateful to organizers for having given us a devroom in
several years so far, and possibly in future years beyond 2019.

There is still the opportunity to propose presentations for the
so-called "Main Track":
https://fosdem.org/2019/news/2018-08-10-call-for-participation/

Regards,
Andrea.

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Matthias Seidel
2018-10-13 17:22:05 UTC
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Hi Andrea,
Post by Andrea Pescetti
Post by Andrea Pescetti
While I haven't received any feedback from FOSDEM organizers yet (the
two contact addresses I had given were mine and Peter's), I am not
seeing the Open Document Editors devroom listed at
https://fosdem.org/2019/schedule/
The organizers confirmed that the devroom won't run in 2019, so
neither OpenOffice nor similar programs will get a devroom (i.e., a
day-long conference track, for those unfamiliar with FOSDEM jargon).
It is normal that FOSDEM rotates subjects of their devrooms and we
should be grateful to organizers for having given us a devroom in
several years so far, and possibly in future years beyond 2019.
Thanks for the info!
So we have more time to talk and (hopefully) for our booth. ;-)
Post by Andrea Pescetti
There is still the opportunity to propose presentations for the
https://fosdem.org/2019/news/2018-08-10-call-for-participation/
"Lightning talks" could also be interesting...

Regards,
   Matthias
Post by Andrea Pescetti
Regards,
  Andrea.
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Peter Kovacs
2018-10-17 05:08:14 UTC
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Hello all

How about the Idea we make a main track to introduce the Idea from
Damjan, to create an own UNO Project.

We would need to explain

# What it does

# Examples of how can it be used.

# what Features and benefits it has.

We could get a first feedback of interest from the audience.

I think this is a good talk for a main track in general.


All the best

Peter
Post by Matthias Seidel
Hi Andrea,
Post by Andrea Pescetti
Post by Andrea Pescetti
While I haven't received any feedback from FOSDEM organizers yet (the
two contact addresses I had given were mine and Peter's), I am not
seeing the Open Document Editors devroom listed at
https://fosdem.org/2019/schedule/
The organizers confirmed that the devroom won't run in 2019, so
neither OpenOffice nor similar programs will get a devroom (i.e., a
day-long conference track, for those unfamiliar with FOSDEM jargon).
It is normal that FOSDEM rotates subjects of their devrooms and we
should be grateful to organizers for having given us a devroom in
several years so far, and possibly in future years beyond 2019.
Thanks for the info!
So we have more time to talk and (hopefully) for our booth. ;-)
Post by Andrea Pescetti
There is still the opportunity to propose presentations for the
https://fosdem.org/2019/news/2018-08-10-call-for-participation/
"Lightning talks" could also be interesting...
Regards,
   Matthias
Post by Andrea Pescetti
Regards,
  Andrea.
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Dave Fisher
2018-10-17 05:24:24 UTC
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Damjan -

A thought - does this UNO project have any synergies with ODF Toolkit? Is it worth reaching out to Svante Schubert and the ODF Toolkit?

Regards,
Dave

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Post by Peter Kovacs
Hello all
How about the Idea we make a main track to introduce the Idea from
Damjan, to create an own UNO Project.
We would need to explain
# What it does
# Examples of how can it be used.
# what Features and benefits it has.
We could get a first feedback of interest from the audience.
I think this is a good talk for a main track in general.
All the best
Peter
Post by Matthias Seidel
Hi Andrea,
Post by Andrea Pescetti
Post by Andrea Pescetti
While I haven't received any feedback from FOSDEM organizers yet (the
two contact addresses I had given were mine and Peter's), I am not
seeing the Open Document Editors devroom listed at
https://fosdem.org/2019/schedule/
The organizers confirmed that the devroom won't run in 2019, so
neither OpenOffice nor similar programs will get a devroom (i.e., a
day-long conference track, for those unfamiliar with FOSDEM jargon).
It is normal that FOSDEM rotates subjects of their devrooms and we
should be grateful to organizers for having given us a devroom in
several years so far, and possibly in future years beyond 2019.
Thanks for the info!
So we have more time to talk and (hopefully) for our booth. ;-)
Post by Andrea Pescetti
There is still the opportunity to propose presentations for the
https://fosdem.org/2019/news/2018-08-10-call-for-participation/
"Lightning talks" could also be interesting...
Regards,
Matthias
Post by Andrea Pescetti
Regards,
Andrea.
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Damjan Jovanovic
2018-10-17 07:40:43 UTC
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Not directly. An UNO wrapper could be written to access the ODF toolkit
from other UNO languages (C++, Python, (old) Javascript, StarBasic, OLE
automation). Those languages would have to run in an UNO environment
though. Other approaches to interoperability do exist; UNO's advantage is
good performance when running in-process, and the possibility of network
transparency.

Our UNO implementation does need some maintenance, for example we have no
Win64 UNO bridge (main/bridges), and it's not easy to develop: AMD64
assembly language, and binary internals of Windows's calling convention,
C++ exception handling and RTTI...

Also UNO is pretty heavy, my estimate is around 30 binaries and 30 MB in
size, possibly more.
Post by Dave Fisher
Damjan -
A thought - does this UNO project have any synergies with ODF Toolkit? Is
it worth reaching out to Svante Schubert and the ODF Toolkit?
Regards,
Dave
Sent from my iPhone
Post by Peter Kovacs
Hello all
How about the Idea we make a main track to introduce the Idea from
Damjan, to create an own UNO Project.
We would need to explain
# What it does
# Examples of how can it be used.
# what Features and benefits it has.
We could get a first feedback of interest from the audience.
I think this is a good talk for a main track in general.
All the best
Peter
Post by Matthias Seidel
Hi Andrea,
Post by Andrea Pescetti
Post by Andrea Pescetti
While I haven't received any feedback from FOSDEM organizers yet (the
two contact addresses I had given were mine and Peter's), I am not
seeing the Open Document Editors devroom listed at
https://fosdem.org/2019/schedule/
The organizers confirmed that the devroom won't run in 2019, so
neither OpenOffice nor similar programs will get a devroom (i.e., a
day-long conference track, for those unfamiliar with FOSDEM jargon).
It is normal that FOSDEM rotates subjects of their devrooms and we
should be grateful to organizers for having given us a devroom in
several years so far, and possibly in future years beyond 2019.
Thanks for the info!
So we have more time to talk and (hopefully) for our booth. ;-)
Post by Andrea Pescetti
There is still the opportunity to propose presentations for the
https://fosdem.org/2019/news/2018-08-10-call-for-participation/
"Lightning talks" could also be interesting...
Regards,
Matthias
Post by Andrea Pescetti
Regards,
Andrea.
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